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Raspbuten
01-31-2008, 09:07 AM
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/Aeryal/testbags.jpg

Just trying to dig up some info on whether or not it's worth getting anything but the adventuring Bag.

So far I've found in game already bags of equal comparisson for:

Diplomacy:
Squire's Hold-All Haversack (http://www.vgtact.com/wiki/index.php/Squire%27s_Holdall_Haversack)
Adventuring:
Pristine Prime Deathweave Vielthread Bag (http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1013721/)
Harvesting:
Pristine Mature Vielthread Reaper's Pouch (http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1013727/)
Pristine Mature Vielthread Skinner's Pouch (http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1013724/)
High Quality Hard Lined Quarrier's Pack (http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1013652/)
High Quality Hard Lined Miner's Pack (http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1013662/)
High Quality Hard Lined Lumberjack's Pack (http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/1013640/)
Crafting:
Large Leather Utility Pouch (http://vg.curse.com/database/items/details/471069/)

The diplomacy stats mean, pretty much didly, especially at high levels.

The crafting stats might help, I wouldn't know i'm not a crafter (yet).

Essentially, the only thing that's even worth having is 5% stackable runspeed, and 10% unbuffed. As a BMG who is constantly dying to Focus of Gelenia, I think I can appreciate that the most.

Any other opinions?

Raspbuten
01-31-2008, 01:58 PM
Someone can double check my math, but here's what I've come up with:

Crafting:

According to the crafting wiki (http://www.vanguardcrafters.com/wiki/index.php?title=Definitions),

Level 50 stats are:
Level 1 = 90
10-50 at 7 per level = 41 * 7 = 287
287 + 90 = 377 in all attributes

With 0 stat allocation:
10-50 at 4 points per level = 41 * 4 = 164
(assuming at 50 you can keep crafting and get 3 more points)
164+3 = 167 unspent points

With the Crafting Bag and a cap of 500 on stats,

377+20 = 397 to all Stats.

This means One can Max one stat, bring another stat to 450 and all the rest over 400.
One can also get all stats up to 418.

It would seem that the crafters bag is most powerful, even compared to the APW bag:
APW bag
+9 tools
+9 utility
+9 station
+1 problem solving
70 slots

Then again, stats might not mean much to crafting, so it's hard to say.

Kaori
01-31-2008, 05:02 PM
craftings easily the most powerful, i would guess followed by diplomacy but i don't know their bags

adventuring doesn't add much, only 5% stacking runspeed.. maybe good for bards but thats about it

Raspbuten
02-01-2008, 08:09 AM
After seeing Qonk's gear, and noticing he has over 500 in almost all of his stats, (without the crafting bag) I went ahead and got the Adventuring Bag.

CR's have just become 10% faster.

Nachtwulf
02-01-2008, 10:11 AM
Some food for thought about crafting bag. It's wicked cool even without the stats on it. 70 slot bag means 20 more spaces for crafting components including all the crystals powders etc that you can hold in there as well. imo it's more space then what i had, I already use deathweave bags and saddlebag.. so the 5% run speed stack would be nice but probably not noticeable or "cutting-edge" speed that turned the tables for me running away from mobs lol =P I can already evac and sow myself as a rogue so big whoop. Diplo bag I can't comment on cuz I have no clue what other in game items would compare to that or how much that faction bonus would be beneficial to active diplomats who would know

Faelor
02-01-2008, 10:14 AM
I'd love to get the crafting bad since it is the most beneficial in comparison... But I don't craft :(

What is the right bag for me!? Which is most fashionable anyways, I need some flare!

... Actually the Diplomacy one seems pretty awesome now that I think about it. Hrm hrm hrmmm.

Sycloness
02-01-2008, 10:04 PM
The crafting bag owns!!!! rest suck

Qonk
02-02-2008, 10:06 AM
Like Rasp said earlier, my crafting stats are more than fine already, I don't really need them any higher, and I already have the 70 slot from APW.

Which is why I went with the runspeed bag. Since it stacks with everything I could myself equiping it until Vanguard's EOL.

Lusain
02-05-2008, 01:46 AM
Crafting bag is a little overboard...

Robert
02-05-2008, 11:23 AM
One added bonus about the crafting bag for adventurers. if you don't craft you cant wear a normal crafting bag. with this one it now gives you 70 extra slots to hold items from deconing.